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Written by Fuwen   
Saturday, 12 December 2009

Another Step to Perfection:  Sennheiser HD 800

HD800 HD-800

 

 

 



It has been a long time me ‘retired’ from spending for audiophile purposes. Lately I spend more time enjoying the music. Ever since I have kids I have been spending a fair amount of time with headphones. I kept many models when I started with the headphones but finally I keep only the AKG K1000 and the Sennheiser HD 650. My daily trips from home to office and back I use Sennheiser professional DJ headphone HD 25-1.

 

 

   

Made in Germany

 


My days were peaceful until a day my friend, who is an editor of his own hifi magazine, came to me with the latest Sennheiser state of the art HD 800.  By the look the HD 800 is the flagship model from any angle. The design is elegant, very different from conventional Sennheiser. The colour scheme is a classy silver and black. The components  used are hand picked and assembled in Germany. So it is not a surprise that it will be selling at a premium price.

 

 


 

 

Like all the high end flagship headphones, HD 800 is an open headphone with little noise isolation. The HD 800 has very large ear cups and that leaves ample space around the ears when wearing the headphones. The sound effect is therefore more airy and spacious. Also the spaciousness causes less heat build up at ears for long period listening.

 

 

  

New design headphone cable, jack and connector.

 


To evaluate the HD 800 I used Marantz SA14 SACD player, Bryston BP 25 preamplifier and German Corda HA-2 headphone amplifier. I could have by-pass the BP25 preamp and connect the SACD output directly to the headamp. But I use the BP25 for few reasons. With the Bryston preamp, I am able to select the source input (currently I am using SA14 and Musical Fidelity A3). Next is the balance connections of SA14 is different from the BP25 standard but the preamp has a phase switch to correct the phase, and then RCA output can be connected to the headamp. Most importantly, my headphone AKG K-1000 is a power sucker.  This headphone is designed to be driven by a small power amplifier. Normal headamp will have a hard time driving the K-1000. So for me I use the higher output from the balance output of the SA-14, and with the signal further amplified by the preamp and the headamp, it is easier to get a good listening volume. However, HD 800 does not need so much trouble but I am too lazy to change the set up for the review.

I am out of this hifi fever for too long already, now need to get back all the audiophile CDs to test the HD 800:  Hugo ‘Tasting Loneliness for the First Time’ SACD, Academy of St Martin-in-the-Fields Rossini String Serenades XRCD, Jazz at the Pawn Shop SACD, Cantate Domino SACD, Carlos Kleiber Beethoven Symphonies 5 and 7 SACD, Renee Fleming’s ‘Beautiful Voice’.

 



The first encounter with the HD 800 was fine, but nothing outstanding actually. So without further ado, I took out a 1992 Sony D-802K Discman to run in the headphone first. Meanwhile I brought back the HD 650 from office to do an A-B comparison with the HD 800. My HD 650 was fitted with Clou Red cable. Although the headphone impedance of both the HD 600 and the HD 650 is 300 ohm, in my opinion they are headphones that are easy to drive, even by Discman without headphone amp. There are many audiophiles believe the HD 650/600 need a headamp to realise their full potential. The HD 800, however, is quite obvious harder to drive then the HD 650/600. The older generation Discmans are still able to drive it, but the modern ones seems lacking of power.

 

  

 


 

After run in the HD 800 for few hundred hours, I then did a comparison with the HD 650. It was very obvious to me now the HD 800 was much more superior. I was happy, because I am not really an audiophile and with the kind of performance differentiation I will not be having a big headache trying to pin point which is better now!

Basically HD 800 has similar sonic characteristics as the HD 650s, being neutral and gentle. The very neutral and accurate design allows you listening to very true to life high and low frequencies. The main difference between HD 650 and HD 600 is HD 650 is more open and forward, like you are the conductor of an orchestra rather than the audience on the hall. To me HD 800 sounds closer to HD 650.

Comparing to HD 650, HD 800 obviously sounds more spacious, has lower background noise, presents much more details in the lower frequencies. Overall HD 800 presents more  details, but not to an extend that it starts to sound clinical. You can easily differentiate good recordings from the bad ones, but the bad recordings are still listenable with the HD 800!   :D

It is always an enjoyable experience for me using high end Sennheiser headphones for classical music and vocals. The high resolution HD 800 presents a much clearer sound stage and the instruments in a symphony orchestra can be located precisely. With the advantage of SACD format, for classical music even at those very loud passages you will not get all the instruments lumped together and they are still vividly staying apart. As for vocal, the HD 800 and HD 650 perform much the same way, with HD 800 sounds more real.

 

   


The String Sonatas by Rossini, performed by the Academy of St Martin-in-the-Fields conducted by Neville Marriner, is my favourite XRCD recording.  In almost all the movements, the violin, cello and the double bass will get to solo for many bars and thus is a fantastic recording to test low, mid and high range of an audio equipment. HD 800 being able to present more details, the instruments sounded more real, and even the flipping of the music scores by the musicians sounds so real now. Sound stage is again good for Kleiber’s Beethoven Symphonies 5 and 7 and Cantate Domino. Although the sound stage is not as wide as a speaker system. Listening to 黄红英 performs 往事如昨, her voice is so sweet and gentle and so is the whistling by Hugo boss 易有伍 himself, one of my favourite track in this SACD recording. Also very enjoyable is the climax in This the Last Rose of Summer performed by Renee Fleming. Based on my past experiences with HD 650, I believe when driven by a tube amplifier the HD 800 will sound even better for vocal and in the midrange.

 

   

 


I also tried Jazz at the Pawnshop (track High Life) and again was very satisfied with the performance of HD 800. As I found the sound stage was still not wide enough, I took out Hugo recording 红旗颂 track 节日序曲 and now finally I got very wide sound stage, though it is still not as wide as the speaker system. This recording of Hugo is really one of the few very good large scale symphony orchestra recordings you can get.

 

   


Never really find rock the forte for Sennheiser and I myself do not listen to rock. I am thinking whether the track Stimela performed by Huge Masekela can be considered as rock music or not? Stimela (life recording) was first introduced to me by this same friend of mine. When listening at normal volume I did not find the recording very special. It was one fine day when I was listening to it at my friend’s home with his world class hifi system at very high volume then I realised the power of this recording. Well this is a strange recording. It really sounds normal at low volume and only when it is played loudly on a speaker system, then will you feel the greatness of the performance and the loneliness in the music. I have never had intention to test headphones with this recording but I will just try it out on the HD 800. Although the volume I used was only slightly louder than normal, HD 800 did present the music in a powerful way!

 



Unfortunately there was a long queue waiting for the HD 800 for reviews and so I had to let it go soon. As it was way better than the HD650, my review was quite easily done and instead I spent more time enjoying music and also trying to compare SACD and XRCD recordings. I would expect SACDs out performed XRCDs easily with HD 800 but to my surprise it was not so on my system. There were some technical issues that made the comparison not so straight forward. The XRCD output seemed to be higher than the SACD, and so for A/B comparison the volume adjustment could make the reference point not totally the same. The Hugo recording 往事如昨, there was different treatment on the vocal part for the XRCD version and the SACD version so that made comparison quite difficult. But overall XRCDs have more meat in the midrange and when listen to vocal, whereas SACDs perform very well for large scale orchestra recordings, and for details in the high and low frequencies range.

 



Before the HD 800 was gone I tested it with Karajan’s Beethoven Symphony No. 9 (DG, 1963 SACD version) and I would say this headphone did justice to this great symphony with the last movement so well presented.

Only now I took out the no more in production AKG K1000 to compare with the HD 800. K1000 is priced higher than HD 650 but lower than HD 800. However it is a very different design and it sounds more like ear speakers than a pair of headphones. It has a strong character and I find it not so suitable for vocal but it does produce music with very good power and speaker like. But overall HD 800 is still much better.

And there it goes the HD 800, and what a poison my friend has given me! 

 

 

 

 


New transducer design

 

Last Updated ( Saturday, 12 December 2009 )
 
CD and MP3 PDF Print E-mail
Written by Fuwen   
Wednesday, 12 November 2008
CD and MP3

 

Today in year 2008 is the world of MP3 players. Portable CD players (PCDP) or Discman of Sony are almost going into extinction. In Singapore market you will not be able to find PCDPs from big brands like Sony, Philips or Panasonic. Only budget brands still producing and selling PCDPs.

I was once admirer of the very beautiful Apple iPods. In the early days of iPod the price was not attractive to me and also the uploading of WAV format was not supported then. It came the time where Apple launched the very basic and small iPod Shuffle. This white little elegant gadget had no display of any kind other than 1 or 2 LEDs. It was priced attractive, and also allowed the play back of WAV format. As a result, I got myself a 1G Shuffle. Well, the first batch of Shuffles was snapped up in no time, and it took me quite a while to hunt down 1 unit selling at 7-11 convenient shop.  

I remembered happily I went home and ripped some audiophile and classical music recordings into WAV format and uploaded to the new toy. The original intention was to compare the sound quality of the Shuffle to the audiophile CD player. But much to my disappointment, the Shuffle’s performance was far from audiophile standard, and I then used vintage PCDP to do the comparison instead. They were compared on my home audiophile system on speakers. The PCDP won hands down in sound quality.  

 

I was pondering about the music performance of the Shuffle.Not being a computer expert, I was not doing the most careful ripping that could be done. Might be that messed up things a little. I did not spend time later on the Shuffle, and it was sold to my colleague at a later date. Every day still I am listening to music with my PCDP: better music and I do not need to spend time ripping music.  

 

Few years later in 2008 came a new colleague who is a computer craze. He asked me one day whether I would be keen to do a blind fold test between Apple iPod and my PCDP. I happily agreed.  

This colleague of mine was using a 5th generation Apple iPod Video. Again I selected WAV as the format for comparison. My colleague went all out for the comparison. In his computer he put in as much vibration isolation as possible, and was using bit by bit CD ripping to prepare the digital files on the hard disk. The music for comparison was Carmina Burama from Deutsche Grammophon.

 

 

 

On the day of the battle of the iPod and PCDP, my Philips PCDP ran into some problems, and a Technics PCDP (which I felt was not as good as the Philips) was used instead. Sound Devices HX-3 was the headphone amplifier, and the headphone used was Sennheiser best HD-650 with Clou Red headphone cable.  

 

I was not feeling very easy as I do not actually have audiophile ears. So I was blind folded, and my colleague did the swapping of source and the playing of music. Only track 8 Chramer, gip die varwe mir was used. At first with the vocals I could hear the difference but still could not decide which was better. Then came the percussions and at that instant I differentiated the PCDP from the iPod .......... again PCDP won hands down!  

 

I was wondering then that iPod sound quality should be of a good standard. Source wise WAV should not be too far off from original CD. Could it be then the DA conversion of the iPod not as good as the Technics? But iPod and Technics are almost 10 years apart in terms of manufacturing date, and I assumed also in terms of technology. Could it be the present cost effective and mass production approach degraded the circuit design? What ever it was, I did not figure out a good answer. But let’s look at the much matured CD technology. Audiophiles can still easily differentiate CD and XRCD recordings, and some even can differentiate US cut CDs from others. So it should not be a big surprise PCDP is superior to iPod, right?

 

 

Now every working day I spend 40 mins on the train ride, and these are precious time for me to enjoy my classical music. You know at home with 4 young kids it is so difficult to find time for serious music listening. Classical music can run about 10mins to half an hour, and I do not have the need to store thousands of music on MP3 player. Just a few CDs and a PCDP will be a very nice portable set up for me. I save all the CD ripping time, and get the best sound effect.  

 

Technology advances so quickly. Maybe one day we can get MP3 performance close to CD?

Last Updated ( Tuesday, 13 January 2009 )
 
24 Years of Discman PDF Print E-mail
Written by Fuwen   
Friday, 14 March 2008

Vintage Portable Compact Disc Players

 

 

 

 


 

I was looking at old and vintage portable compact disc players (PCDP) in the year 2004. It started when I was reading posts from a group of audiophile enthusiasts collecting vintage PCDPs and they all agreed that the audio performance of these old gadgets were much superior to the modern ones.  

 

How old are these vintage portable players? Let’s look at the Sony D-5, which was manufactured in 1984. So in the year 2008 it is already 24 years of age! Many who are into vintage players agree that these old players out perform those models made after 1995. In those years when I was hunting for these old PCDPs, a good condition Sony or Denon PCDP could cost around US$300 on ebay auction!   The more popular models collectors sort after are Sony D-5, D-25, D-35, D-88, D-303, D-515, D-555; Denon DCP-100 and DCP-150; and Technics SL-XP series of players.

 

 

 
Sony D-9 (left) and D-40 (right)

 

 

So how good actually are these players? For me I connected theses old players to my home speaker system and compared them with Musical Fidelity A-3 CD player and Marantz SA-14 SACD/CD player. Of course these vintage PCDPs are of no match to the full size audiophile grade CD players, but if you take into account the price of the equipment, these PCDPs do perform to a respectable standard.

 

 


Denon DCP-100 

 

 

The vintage PCDPs do have their reasons of being superior in quality compared to the modern counter parts. In those days manufacturing cost, size of the player and battery life are of not top priority yet. The early Sony players are made of solid metal chassis. A heavier chassis and higher power consumption allow these vintage players to deliver more punchy sound.

 

The Sony D-5 probably is one of the first PCDP in the market. I do not own one of this, but instead I have a similar D-14. D-14 is made of solid metal, heavy like a brick and runs on 4 size C batteries! The line-out power is astonishing, but the one I have run very hot during playing back of CDs.

 

 


D-14 with DC adaptor and Philips 6800 (background)

 

 

The 1990 Sony D-35 is an interesting model. It is relatively slim compared to players of the same generation. It has a large LCD display and numerous buttons on the top cover.  The 1991 Sony D-303 is built like a tank, a very nice looking player.

 

 

 

D-35 (left) and D-303 (right) 

 

 

The D-555 from Sony, manufactured in the year 1989, is probably the PCDP packed with the most features:  headphone out, line out, 10 level digital bass boost, optical out, 5 band equaliser, DDS and surround sound control, and digital volume control.

 

 


D-555 

 

 

Sony D-88 (year 1988) is yet another interesting PCDP. It is the smallest in size in that generation, and in fact even smaller in foot print than today’s PCDP. It is designed for 8cm CD playback, but the 8cm CD is difficult to find today. Although designed for 8cm CD, the D-88 can also play back the standard 12cm CD. There is a button for user to adjust the laser pick up in order to play 12cm CD, but then when in this mode the player is no longer portable as the CD is exposed outside the player, like a tree cutter!

 

 

  

 

  


 

D-88 

 

 

Sony PCDPs are more innovative in design and of great variety. In comparison the Denon design is more down to earth, but equally well built. The Denon D-100 and D-150 are very sort after by collectors. The SL-XP series of Technics are relatively slim and small compared to Sony and Denon, and use extensive plastic construction. One of the Technics model SL-XP 150 has a very special mid range performance, which makes vocal listening really pleasant. However, in terms of musical performance, personally I much prefer the Philips AZ 68XX series of player. The sonic character of the Philips is full of punch, well balance all around performance, and can be powerful and delicate depending on the music. However the Philips players are not as reliable as the rest, and the feel of the construction are not as good.

 

 


 

SL-XP6 (left) and SL-XP1 (right) 

 

 

If you were to ask me is it worth collecting these vintage players? Well, good audio performance as they might be, these are very old electronic gadgets that are unlikely to last very long. I feel that the risk of these players breaking down is so high that if you need to pay for quite a fair bit then it is not worth collecting. Modern branded players though the audio output is not as superior, but I feel that they are decent enough for most purposes. And from the portable point of view the newer players are much smaller in size, lighter in weight and the batteries last much longer.

 

 


 

Philips AZ6848 

 

 

Few years back I still get to see these new generation PCDPs on sale from brand like Sony, Panasonic and Philips. But today in year 2008, or even in 2007, the small and minute MP3 players have become the main stream portable music listening gadgets, the branded PCDPs are no longer selling in most shops.  

 

Today I still carrying a portable set up with vintage PCDP, a Sound Devices headphone amplifier and a Sennheiser HD 25-1 closed headphone, for me listening to music on the train. I don’t really care about the weight, but the music performance is fantastic, and I still have lots of vintage PCDPs to last me for very very long.    

 

24 years of Discman:  1984-2008

 
Last Updated ( Tuesday, 12 January 2010 )
 
Speaker system PDF Print E-mail
Written by Fuwen   
Sunday, 30 July 2006


 

 

I like listening to classical music and my friend who is an expert in hifi system recommended me a system, which I like very much and has been enjoying music with it.

 

At present my system set up is as follows:

Source:       

                           Marantz SA-14 SACD player on Goldmund cones
                           Musical Fidelity A-3 CD player on BDR Mk 4 cones  

Pre-amplifier:   

                            Bryston BP-25

Amplider:       

                            Bryston 4B SST Silver

Speakers:       

                            Sonus Faber Grand Piano Home

Interconnects:   

                            SA-14 to preamp - DIY pure silver balance and RCA
                            A3 to preamp - Z2 Au/Au RCA                         
                            Preamp to Amp - DIY pure silver balance

Speaker cables:  

                             SonicArt, silver coated copper cables

Power cables:     

                            SA-14 - AFA Zeus II                                                                                                                      A-3 - AFA Zeus II
                            Preamp -    JPS Lab        
                            Amp - SonicArt  

Signal conditioner:  

                            Castle PLF-200, power amp connects direct

 

 

  

 

    

 

 

The charateristics of this system is neutral. However, good recordings will sound good on this system while the bad ones will sound horrible. This system serves me well, especially for classical music like symphonies and concertos. Female vocals are not so sweet. Sound stage is not that wide and deep. So far I am quite happy with this set up and is unlikely to upgrade for quite a while. 

 

 

     

Last Updated ( Tuesday, 12 January 2010 )
 
Headphone system on the move PDF Print E-mail
Written by Fuwen   
Sunday, 30 July 2006

 

 

My on-the-move hifi system consists of a set of not-so-portable portable CD Player (PCDP), headphone amplifier and headphones.

 

 

 

I am using vintage/old PCDP running on AA NiMH rechargable batteries. I have been a long time supporter of Philips and find their PCDPs have very all round and well balance sonic signature. There was a point of time I was crazy collecting old vintage PCDPs but not any more. The older PCDPs have much better sound quality compared to modern days design. I believe in those days power consumption and size were not the top priority compared to today's designs. As a results the music they delivered has much more punch and energy. However, due to the old age of these well made vintage stuff, they tend to break down and spares are generally not available. Therefore unless you are a vintage gadget lover, I would not recommend collecting these stuff if the price is too high. Anyway I am still happily using my vintage PCDPs with some anti-skid capability.


Although I very much prefer listnening music with my speaker system, having three young kids at home it make me very difficult to do so. Sad to say that nowadays I spent most of my time listening music using my portable system during the journey to and back from work and in the office.

In my present portable system, the PCDP is connected to the Sound Devices headphone amplifier HX-3 using the headphone out or audio out. The amplifier will then drive a Sennheiser HD 25-1 70 ohms professional DJ close headphone.

While open headphone will give a more natural sound, a close headphone is better for travel as it cuts off some surrounding noise. As a result, the volumn can be keep as low as possible and will not cause damages to hearing. The HD 25-1 that I am currently using though good in performance, but being fairly expensive so may not be value-for-money. The design of the HD 25-1 is quite different. The two head supports can be open out. The left side of the headphone can be tilted up for one-ear listening. The flexibility of the design allows wearing of the headphones in all kind of situation, but also made it not so easy to wear as there are too many adjustments available.

 

 

 

   
                                Headbands wide open                                                                        Left headphone folded 

 

After using the HD 25-1 for almost 4 years I had the stock steel cable replaced by an original Sennheiser replacement cable (part no: 74532). This cable is much more flexible than the stock cable but is terminated with straight 1/4-inch plug. There is a similar cable for the 600-ohm version of the HD 25 but according to the catalogue the cable is also steel cable. This one I am using is so flexible that I believe could be OFC. It is much longer than the stock HD 25-1 cable and the sound signature is more refined. 


The Sound Devices HX-3 headphone amp that I am using was designed for filming crews. It is built like a tank and can be quite heavy for some to carry around. Being an engineer I really like the solid build of the amplifier and what I like most is it is using 2 AA batteries. Also the power on light serves also as a low battery indicator. The LED is green with fresh batteries, yellow when the power is low and red when it is time to change the batteries.

The interconnect I am using from the PCDP to the headphone amp are DIY pure silver mini-to-mini cable and Ultimate Link solid core pure silver mini-to-TRS cable.


For those who want to know more about headphones can visit the following sites:


www.sgheadphones.net
www.head-fi.org

 

Last Updated ( Tuesday, 12 January 2010 )